Tuesday, April 20, 2010
Krck *Em when they are down
http://www.congress.org/news/2010/04/19/the_10_most_hopeless_bills?p=9
The 10 most hopeless bills
By Kristin Coyner
H.R. 676: United States National Health Care Act or the Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act of 2009
Sponsor: Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.)
Cosponsors: 87 Democratic representatives
Introduced: Jan. 26, 2009
Status: Jan. 26, 2009, read twice and referred to House Energy and Commerce, House Natural Resources and House Ways and Means committees
This bill is Conyers' fourth attempt at expanding Medicare for all citizens. In effect, the legislation would outlaw most forms of insurance.
The legislation would provide for free medical care for all Americans through the United States National Health Care Program and would prohibit any institution from providing care unless it were a government entity or nonprofit.
Conyers' co-sponsors represent the Democrats' liberal health care block. This wing was balanced with the moderate Blue Dogs as the overall health care package moved forward.
The bill would truly implement a single-payer system. And as an 87-member block would suggest, it's not just the Michigan lawmaker who wants the expansion: In 2005, the late-Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) proposed including all Americans in the federal program.
Liberal stalwarts such as George McGovern, the Democrat's 1972 presidential candidate, have also proposed such an expansion.
Aside from the obvious pushback from insurance companies, which would see their business dry up because the need for premiums would be bypassed, expanding Medicare for all is largely deemed unfeasible across the ideological spectrum.
Such a change would necessarily raise taxes and severely disrupt the health care delivery system.
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note: 676ers might be down, but we are not out!
Monday, February 15, 2010
Future of Single Payer debate
February 18, 2010 – St. Louis, MO
The Future of Single Payer in the Health Care Debate
Dr. Pamella Gronemeyer, a pathologist and progressive political activist who lives in Glen
Carbon, IL will talk on “The Future of Single Payer in the Health Care Debate.”
When: 6:30 p.m., Thursday, Feb. 18
Where: Hanke Room of the Ethical Society of St. Louis, 9001 Clayton Rd.
The program is sponsored by Missourians for Single Payer and is free and open to the public.
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Hope all participate in the conference call over single payer this evening.
Friday, June 26, 2009
side by side healthcare proposal comparison
http://www.kff.org/healthreform/sidebyside.cfm
The Kaiser Family Foundation does a lot of good work in this field. Unfortunately, they are not a supporter of HR676
Tuesday, June 16, 2009
More reps join Hr676
Since May 20 seven more US Representatives have signed on to HR 676,
national single payer health care sponsored by Congressman John Conyers
(D-MI), bringing the total, including Conyers, to 83. The full list is
here: http://unionsforsinglepayer.org/ Click on 111th Congress
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H.R.676
Title: To provide for comprehensive health insurance coverage for all United States residents, improved health care delivery, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] (introduced 1/26/2009) Cosponsors (83)
Latest Major Action: 1/26/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committees on Ways and Means, and Natural Resources, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
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COSPONSORS(83), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)
Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] - 2/11/2009 Rep Baldwin, Tammy [WI-2] - 1/26/2009
Rep Becerra, Xavier [CA-31] - 3/17/2009 Rep Berman, Howard L. [CA-28] - 1/26/2009
Rep Bishop, Sanford D., Jr. [GA-2] - 2/23/2009 Rep Brady, Robert A. [PA-1] - 2/11/2009
Rep Brown, Corrine [FL-3] - 3/3/2009 Rep Capuano, Michael E. [MA-8] - 2/23/2009
Rep Christensen, Donna M. [VI] - 4/21/2009 Rep Clarke, Yvette D. [NY-11] - 1/26/2009
Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] - 1/26/2009 Rep Cleaver, Emanuel [MO-5] - 2/23/2009
Rep Cohen, Steve [TN-9] - 1/26/2009 Rep Costello, Jerry F. [IL-12] - 2/3/2009
Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7] - 2/23/2009 Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] - 1/26/2009
Rep Delahunt, William D. [MA-10] - 1/26/2009 Rep Dicks, Norman D. [WA-6] - 6/15/2009
Rep Doyle, Michael F. [PA-14] - 1/26/2009 Rep Edwards, Donna F. [MD-4] - 1/26/2009
Rep Ellison, Keith [MN-5] - 1/26/2009 Rep Engel, Eliot L. [NY-17] - 1/26/2009
Rep Farr, Sam [CA-17] - 1/26/2009 Rep Fattah, Chaka [PA-2] - 2/11/2009
Rep Filner, Bob [CA-51] - 2/11/2009 Rep Frank, Barney [MA-4] - 1/28/2009
Rep Fudge, Marcia L. [OH-11] - 6/2/2009 Rep Green, Al [TX-9] - 2/23/2009
Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] - 1/26/2009 Rep Gutierrez, Luis V. [IL-4] - 1/26/2009
Rep Hare, Phil [IL-17] - 6/11/2009 Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 2/23/2009
Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. [NY-22] - 1/26/2009 Rep Hirono, Mazie K. [HI-2] - 2/23/2009
Rep Holt, Rush D. [NJ-12] - 6/12/2009 Rep Honda, Michael M. [CA-15] - 2/11/2009
Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [IL-2] - 3/5/2009 Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] - 1/26/2009
Rep Johnson, Henry C. "Hank," Jr. [GA-4] - 2/3/2009 Rep Kaptur, Marcy [OH-9] - 1/26/2009
Rep Kennedy, Patrick J. [RI-1] - 2/23/2009 Rep Kildee, Dale E. [MI-5] - 2/23/2009
Rep Kilpatrick, Carolyn C. [MI-13] - 1/26/2009 Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 1/26/2009
Rep Lee, Barbara [CA-9] - 1/26/2009 Rep Lewis, John [GA-5] - 3/17/2009
Rep Loebsack, David [IA-2] - 3/24/2009 Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA-16] - 5/20/2009
Rep Lujan, Ben Ray [NM-3] - 3/24/2009 Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. [NY-14] - 2/23/2009
Rep Markey, Edward J. [MA-7] - 6/12/2009 Rep Massa, Eric J. J. [NY-29] - 1/26/2009
Rep McDermott, Jim [WA-7] - 1/26/2009 Rep McGovern, James P. [MA-3] - 3/3/2009
Rep Meek, Kendrick B. [FL-17] - 3/24/2009 Rep Meeks, Gregory W. [NY-6] - 1/26/2009
Rep Miller, George [CA-7] - 3/19/2009 Rep Moore, Gwen [WI-4] - 2/11/2009
Rep Nadler, Jerrold [NY-8] - 1/26/2009 Rep Napolitano, Grace F. [CA-38] - 1/26/2009
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC] - 5/20/2009 Rep Olver, John W. [MA-1] - 1/26/2009
Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-4] - 3/19/2009 Rep Payne, Donald M. [NJ-10] - 3/3/2009
Rep Pingree, Chellie [ME-1] - 1/26/2009 Rep Polis, Jared [CO-2] - 1/28/2009
Rep Roybal-Allard, Lucille [CA-34] - 3/30/2009 Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] - 2/23/2009
Rep Ryan, Tim [OH-17] - 3/5/2009 Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. [IL-9] - 2/23/2009
Rep Scott, Robert C. "Bobby" [VA-3] - 2/23/2009 Rep Serrano, Jose E. [NY-16] - 6/9/2009
Rep Thompson, Bennie G. [MS-2] - 2/23/2009 Rep Tierney, John F. [MA-6] - 1/28/2009
Rep Tonko, Paul D. [NY-21] - 1/26/2009 Rep Towns, Edolphus [NY-10] - 3/31/2009
Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. [NY-12] - 2/23/2009 Rep Waters, Maxine [CA-35] - 3/19/2009
Rep Watson, Diane E. [CA-33] - 1/26/2009 Rep Welch, Peter [VT] - 2/23/2009
Rep Wexler, Robert [FL-19] - 2/11/2009 Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. [CA-6] - 1/26/2009
Rep Yarmuth, John A. [KY-3] - 2/23/2009
Friday, May 22, 2009
GOP healtcare plan
Note two things on the vid and the plan: they are not as detailed on healthcare reform as HR676. Also note: plan uses a lot of the Luntz healthcare wording.===========================
Friday, May 15, 2009
More reactions from single payer refjection in the senate
Going to be very difficult the next election to recommend dems for elction and reelection.
This is from the Seattle Times and is copyrighted. I will withdraw if objections made and the intent of it being published here is to spark discussion. I am not a thief nor a US senator and do not believe in stealing:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2009221164_opinc15amygoodman.html
Health-care status quo pushing out single-payer advocates in nation's capital
By Amy Goodman
Syndicated columnist
Barack Obama appeared this week with health-industry bigwigs, proclaiming light at the end of the health-care tunnel. Among those gathered were executives from HMO giants Kaiser Foundation Health Plan and Health Net Inc., and the health-insurance lobbying group America's Health Insurance Plans; from the American Hospital Association and the American Medical Association; from medical-device companies; and from the pharmaceutical industry, including the president and CEO of Merck and former Rep. Billy Tauzin, now president and CEO of PhRMA, the massive industry lobbying group. They have pledged to voluntarily shave some $2 trillion off U.S. health-care costs over 10 years. But these groups, which are heavily invested in the U.S. health-care status quo, have little incentive to actually make good on their promises.
This is beginning to look like a replay of the failed 1993 health-care reform efforts led by then-first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton. Back then, the business interests took a hard line and waged a PR campaign, headlined by a fictitious middle-class couple, Harry and Louise, who feared a government-run health-care bureaucracy.
Still absent from the debate are advocates for single-payer, often referred to as "Canadian-style" health care. Single-payer health care is not "socialized medicine." According to Physicians for a National Health Program, single-payer means "the government pays for care that is delivered in the private (mostly not-for-profit) sector."
A February CBS News poll found that 59 percent in the U.S. say the government should provide national health insurance.
Single-payer advocates have been protesting in Senate Finance Committee hearings, chaired by Democratic Montana Sen. Max Baucus. Last week, at a committee hearing with 15 industry speakers, not one represented the single-payer perspective. A group of single-payer advocates, including doctors and lawyers, filled the hearing room and, one by one, interrupted the proceedings.
Protester Adam Schneider yelled: "We need to have single-payer at the table. I have friends who have died, who don't have health care, whose health care did not withstand their personal health emergencies. ... Single-payer now!"
Baucus gaveled for order, guffawing, "We need more police." The single-payer movement has taken his words as a rallying cry. At a hearing Tuesday, five more were arrested. They call themselves the "Baucus 13."
One of the Baucus 13, Kevin Zeese, recently summarized Baucus' career campaign contributions:
"... from the insurance industry, $1,170,313; from health professionals, $1,016,276; pharmaceuticals/health-products industry, $734,605; hospitals/nursing homes, $541,891; health services/HMOs, $439,700."
That's almost $4 million from the very industries that have the most to gain or lose from health-care reform.
Another of the Baucus 13, Russell Mokhiber, co-founder of SinglePayerAction.org, has been charged with "disruption of Congress."
He was quick to respond: "I charge Baucus with disrupting Congress. It once was a democratic institution; now it's corrupt, because of people like him. He takes money from the industry and does their bidding. He won't even diffuse the situation by seating a single-payer advocate at the table."
As I traveled through Montana recently, from Missoula to Helena to Bozeman, health-care activists kept referring to Baucus as the "money man." Montana state Sen. Christine Kaufmann sponsored an amendment to the Montana Constitution, granting everyone in Montana "the right to quality health care regardless of ability to pay," or health care as a human right. It died in committee.
Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold, a single-payer advocate, said his position will not likely prevail in Washington: "I don't think there's any possibility that that will come out of this Congress." That's if things remain business as usual.
Mario Savio led the Free Speech Movement on the UC Berkeley campus. In 1964, he said: "There comes a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part, you can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop. And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all."
"Unless you're free," the Baucus 13 might add, "to speak." The current official debate has locked single-payer options out of the discussion, but also escalated the movement — from Healthcare-NOW! to Single Payer Action — to shut down the orderly functioning of the debate, until single-payer gets a seat at the table.
Amy Goodman is the host of "Democracy Now!," a daily international TV/radio news hour airing on more than 750 stations in North America. Denis Moynihan contributed research to this column.
2009, Amy Goodman
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Thursday, May 7, 2009
Ed Schultz asks a few good questions senate arrests of single-payer folks
This is a treat and you might wish to take a few minutes to watch
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Tuesday, May 5, 2009
Politico Who to watch in debate over healthcare
Look for a lot of politics to be played while healthcare debate rages. This is an interesting article dealing with folks relatively unknown to most folks. The players listed in the politico article are some of the folks behind the scenes.
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Who to watch for in debate over careBy: Carrie Budoff Brown May 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21952_Page2.html
One of the most feared figures in the health care reform debate isn’t an Old Bull committee chairman or a hard-nosed White House chief of staff. He’s a bespectacled, former academic from the Brookings Institution. Doug Elmendorf is now director of the Congressional Budget Office, where he’s charged with pricing the various reform proposals. Nothing moves without being “scored” by his office, and an unfavorable assessment of a program’s cost can be tantamount to defeat. He’s one of five people you may have never heard of who could affect the course of health care reform.
The Scorekeeper: Doug Elmendorf Consider the CBO director as the Oz and the umpire of health care lawmaking. Elmendorf and his team of anonymous analysts will issue the authoritative, nonpartisan, independent price tags on the programs. What they say often goes. The Clinton administration learned that the hard way. In 1994, as it tried to move a massive overhaul through Congress, then-CBO chief Robert Reischauer delivered repeated blows to the plan by questioning its cost estimates. It went down in flames. The measure of Elmendorf’s clout was apparent during a February hearing when Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) seemed to both court and curse him and his band of CBO bean counters.
“We hope this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship,” the chairman said sweetly at one point. Only to add later: “In my judgment, you’re not God. You might be Moses, but not God.” Elmendorf tried to demur. CBO simply provides technical direction, he said, “but as you understand, the hard decisions will be yours.” To which Baucus shot back: “No. That’s incorrect. The hard decisions will be ours, both of us, you and me.” The Organizer: Dennis Rivera Rivera runs a war room that’s now the epicenter of the left-wing mobilization in support of the reform legislation. From the ground floor of the Service Employees International Union headquarters in Washington, Rivera is preparing for the moment a bill drops. At that point, he must make sure the right members of Congress are contacted, the right message is delivered, and his shaky coalition of industry, labor and consumers stays intact. “We are running a political campaign, and our candidate is basically health care reform,” said Rivera, head of SEIU Health Care. Rivera and his team have been laying the groundwork for months, with a war room staff of more than 50 and more than 400 organizers in the field. They have developed profiles on more than 100 members of Congress, collecting mounds of data on voting records, district demographics and health statistics — and influential allies — “people closest to them who could, at some point, talk to them and be more persuasive than us,” Rivera said, citing clergy, former staff members and business leaders. With a reputation for getting the job done, Rivera helped SEIU become the most aggressive and ubiquitous player in the health care debate, forging unorthodox partnerships if that’s what’s required to win. The union has forged marriages of necessity with pharmaceuticals, insurers and hospitals. Rivera talks to his new allies several times a week, if not every day, and will play a key role in deciding how closely they all move forward together. The Backroom Operator: Liz Fowler If you drew an organizational chart of major players in the Senate health care negotiations, Fowler would be the chief operating officer. As a senior aide to Baucus, she directs the Finance Committee health care staff, enforces deadlines on drafting bill language and coordinates with the White House and other lawmakers. She also troubleshoots, identifying policy and political problems before they ripen. “My job is to get from point A to point B,” said Fowler, who’s training for four triathlons this summer in between her long days on Capitol Hill.
Fowler learned as a sophomore at the University of Pennsylvania that the United States was the only industrialized country without universal health care, and she decided then to dedicate her professional life to the work. She first worked for Baucus from 2001 through 2005, playing a key role in negotiating the Medicare Part D prescription drug program. Feeling burned out, she left for the private sector but rejoined Baucus in 2008, sensing that a Democratic-controlled Congress would make progress on overhauling the health care system. Baucus and Fowler spent a year putting the senator in a position to pursue reform, including holding hearings last summer and issuing a white paper in November. They deliberately avoided releasing legislation in order to send a signal of openness and avoid early attacks. “People know when Liz is speaking, she is speaking for Baucus,” said Dean Rosen, the health policy adviser to former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.). The Money Cop: Earl Devaney A former Secret Service agent, Devaney has very little to do with health care reform — directly, at least. But as the guy tasked with minimizing fraud and waste in the $787 billion economic stimulus legislation, one of the single largest government expenditures in American history, Devaney is poised to influence the debate. Here’s why: President Barack Obama and Democrats are proposing a health care fix that could exceed $1 trillion over 10 years — perhaps more, according to some estimates. If Devaney finds egregious examples of wasteful spending on the stimulus front, his work could prove damaging to the president politically and may very well sour the public appetite for a government-heavy approach to health care. It’s a bleed-over effect that has already been on display. When the AIG bonuses erupted into a firestorm in mid-March, health care insiders viewed the development ominously. Obama’s approval ratings dipped to the lowest point of his presidency, and the public was outraged at the way the company, the administration and Congress bungled it. The Storyteller: Jane Doe Health care is about to enter the heart-tugging phase. Groups on the right and left have been quietly building arsenals of narrators — people who can sear the American conscience with personal stories. The American Cancer Society collects cases through a call center in Texas. The SEIU gathers stories by congressional district. And Conservatives for Patients’ Rights, an organization poised to oppose the Obama plan, sent a former CNN reporter to Britain and Canada to produce a documentary on outrages in the European system that critics claim the White House plan will mimic. The last major health care reform effort in the 1990s was defined by Harry and Louise, the fictional middle-class couple featured in an insurance industry ad. And an extraordinarily complex bill went down amid a flurry of 30-second ads. Given the fragmented media environment, a singular TV ad may not hold as much sway as it did in the early ’90s. But that doesn’t mean either side plans to pass up the tool. Conservatives for Patients’ Rights was the first to use it, releasing a 60-second spot featuring Dr. Brian Day, a past president of the Canadian Medical Association, describing how patients in the country are “languishing and suffering on waiting lists.” Expect to see Day lobbying members of Congress — and many more stories from both sides in the weeks to come.
© 2009 Capitol News Company, LL
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Note: SEIU, Service Employees Internation Union, is a big supporter of Obama's plan. Although Howard Dean is saying Obama's plan is a single payer, it is not and definately not HR676 sytle healthcare.
SEIU represents a tremendous number of healthcare workers. SEIU United Healthcare Workers West (UHW West) is a large (150,000 member) local union based in Oakland, California. SEIU has some locals larger than some entire members groups of AFL-CIO.
1199SEIU United Healthcare Workers East has a membership of 250,000 and claims to be the largest local union in the world.
Andy Stern is current president of SEIU and SEIU is member of "Change to Win", not a member of AFL-CIO.
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My understanding: SEIU has some structures with employers as does the steelworkers and steel companies (Alliance for American Manufacturing for instance).
With talks of the AFL-CIO and Change to Win reunification, do not look for a battle over healthcare reform within the union in a public light. Even within the Steelworkers, some side with HR676 and others towards traditional company benefits and or VEBA.
Director Douglas Elmendorf of the Congressional Budget Office may or may not be an ally when the CBO gets around to the cost comparisions of varied healthcare proposals. It will be interesting to see if he even includes HR676 in analysis for HR676 is not on the table of healthcare reform Obama style.
Friday, May 1, 2009
Kay Tillow nurses organization--promoter of HR676
One of the most vocal supporter of HR676 is Kay Tillow. http://www.healthcare-now.org/
She, as does we; believe Healthcare is a human right.
http://unionsforsinglepayerHR676.org
All Unions Committee For Single Payer Health Care--HR 676 c/o Nurses Professional Organization (NPO) 1169 Eastern Parkway, Suite 2218 Louisville, KY 40217 Tel: (502) 636-1551
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United Steelworkers union Vice President Fred Redmond at HR 676 press conference
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Another Obama snub of 676ers

Healthcare Is A Right -- Not A Privilege
www.laborforsinglepayer.org
For Immediate Release: March 18, 2009
Contact: Mark Dudzic: 201-314-2653 or mdudzic@igc.org
Labor leaders disappointed by lack of working people's voices at Vermont healthcare reform discussion
Burlington, VT -- Working people’s voices were not heard at the Obama Administration's second regional Health Care Summit in Burlington, VT on March 17.
"Despite the fact that several union spokespersons attended the meeting, we were not called upon and unfortunately the voice of workers was shut out of the discussion," said Peter Knowlton, president of the Northeast Region of the United Electrical Workers Union (UE). "When it came to the financial discussion, Gov. Douglas and Gov. Patrick [the two governors moderating the session] only called on wealthy special-interests from the worlds of business and professional circles."
Sandy Eaton, a nurse who attended the forum stated that nurses’ voices went unheard as well. "Nurses were well represented, but our voices were not heard -- and the term "nurse" or "hospital worker" was never mentioned in the two hour forum," said Eaton who is a member of the executive board of the Massachusetts Nurses Association.
Outside the auditorium where the summit was being held, over 250 labor and community members rallied in support of HR 676 and single payer healthcare. “Our system needs fundamental reform,” said Dawn Stanger, President of the Vermont Workers Center-Jobs with Justice. Stanger, a UPS employee and member of Teamsters Local 597, was joined by dozens of unionized nurses who worked next door at Fletcher Allen Health Care, the largest hospital in Vermont.
“We need to build a movement to demand change,” Stanger told the crowd. The Vermont Workers Center is coordinating a major statewide “Healthcare Is a Human Right” rally on May 1 at the Vermont Statehouse which will include U. S. Senator Bernie Sanders. The rally will oppose Vermont Governor Douglas’ proposed budget cuts to healthcare programs and support state and national single-payer legislation.
“I was really hopeful that these forums would finally give voice to workers concerns,” added UE leader Peter Knowlton. "There were many people there who could have reminded them about the serious problems hourly workers face with skyrocketing premiums and dealing with the horrors of co-pays, deductibles, out-of-pocket expenses and the run around all workers face with managed care. If this forum is any indication of future ones, we will need to be much more aggressive to get our voices heard."
Knowlton, Eaton and Stanger were among the several labor leaders at the forum who support HR 676, the "Expanded and Improved Medicare for All" Act. HR 676 was re-introduced this year by Congressman John Conyers. It currently has 66 congressional co-sponsors. Because it eliminates the private insurance industry from profiting from people's misfortunes and, like Medicare, establishes the federal government as the "single payer" of everyone's medical bills, HR 676 can provide healthcare for all with no co-pays or deductibles in a fiscally prudent manner. HR 676 has the endorsement of hundreds of state and local labor federations and local unions as well as many other civic and religious organizations.
The Labor Campaign for Single Payer Healthcare was formed at a meeting attended by over 150 representatives from labor organizations in 31 states that have endorsed HR 676. We believe that the struggle for universal, single-payer health care needs labor's dynamic grassroots involvement. Learn more at: www.laborforsinglepayer.org
The Burlington Free Press also provided coverage of the rally at:
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20090318/NEWS03/90318001&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL
Sunday, February 8, 2009
health care article historical comments
The following is a copyrighted article of interest to the group. I will withdraw if owners lodge an objection for the intent is to spark conversation on the subject and it is an excellent article, one well worth reading.
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This is a continuation of the single payer health care debate. Note: we did some discussion of this subject again at our Feb, 09 meeting. A good time to call in for action is President's day this year. Call your congressfolks and demand passage of H676, Medicare for American's Act.
Note: at the meeting we did discuss some of the differences between current proposals and H676. H676 is closest to the "old time" Canco insurance in many ways and in fact would be an improvement in many areas. The current "medical" coverage for retirees is really inferior and the courts have allowed modification of "promices" benefits to the disadvantage of our membership. Some have only Medicare and we know the woes with that program.
Common enough story for retirees and increasingly a common story for working folks across the land. If you feel strongly enough, we invite you to the march and demonstration in Granite City, Il this Tuesday (2-10-09) and group will have several folks in attendance. 11 AM at steel mill, look for the crowd (or at least watch on television at noon--Fox, Kmox or Ksdk is supposed to be there. Ralph by the way is a marshal.
Be sure to also check Post Dispatch. Post has not covered too well some of the "union" and worker events in the past couple years.
I am along for the donuts and coffee.
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http://www.tnr.com/story_print.html?id=4d41ab07-8c25-4b22-81d2-02b4d149afe2
This Won't Hurt a Bit
Health care reform for dummies.
Jonathan Cohn, The New Republic Published: Wednesday, February 18, 2009
Credit: David Cowles
At first blush, the findings of a study group called the Committee on the Costs of Medical Care might not seem particularly surprising. It's no longer news that millions of American families face financial ruin or physical catastrophe because they have no way to pay medical bills. Nor is it a great revelation that, as a committee staff member put it, "[v]ery few of these families are indigent in the accepted meaning of the word. They have a home, they buy their own food and clothing and pay their doctor's bills in ordinary illness." But it's not the novelty of the committee's findings that makes them so compelling. It's the timing. The report appeared in 1932.
It was the culmination of a five-year study, sponsored by a group of philanthropies, designed to provide the first comprehensive survey of health care spending in the United States. Back then, medicine was just entering what we now consider the modern era. Thanks to anesthesia, the sanitary method, and other innovations, health care had suddenly gotten a lot more effective--and a lot more expensive. For the first time, worrying about illness inevitably meant worrying about paying doctors and hospitals--a situation, the committee knew, that wouldn't go away after the Great Depression.
The committee's report was pretty big news. And, to the liberals then serving in Franklin Roosevelt's new administration, the response was obvious: The United States should follow the lead of Germany and create a national insurance system for medical care. Everybody would pay a premium in the form of taxes; the government would then pay everybody's medical expenses, drawing the money from the collected premiums. The New Dealers perceived national health insurance as a logical extension of what they were trying to do with Social Security: insulate people from the whims of the free market and the full fury of chance. They wanted to save capitalism from its own failures, which in this case meant making sure nobody would become indigent just because he or she had the misfortune to get sick.
FDR ultimately decided against pushing national health insurance, deeming it an unacceptable political risk. Two generations later, the job remains unfinished, only now our health-care crisis is a lot more complicated. One thing, however, has changed for the better. Unlike in 1932, there is today broad agreement that the system needs fixing. Perhaps nothing better symbolizes this consensus than the existence of a coalition called "Divided We Fail," whose members include longtime health reform advocates like the Service Employees International Union and longtime opponents like the Business Roundtable.
As a result, the prospects for sweeping changes to our health care system seem brighter than at any time in recent history. But the consensus is as fragile as it is broad. While the environment might now be conducive to bold changes, such political moments can prove maddeningly ephemeral. Once the squabbling over details begins, the obstructionists will get louder. National health insurance, they will vow, is a form of socialism--a charge they deployed during the New Deal and in every health care debate since.
But, just as the critics reach back to history to formulate their offensive, proponents of reform can find ammunition there, too. They must reprise the arguments for reform that were offered during the 1930s--and explain why they have only grown more urgent in the past few decades. Moreover, just as New Dealers were willing to take what they could get--to settle for imperfect but politically tenable programs rather than hold out for more ambitious measures and risk ending up with nothing--reform advocates may have to accept proposals that come up short of their ideal solution. Finally, they must press the case that, in the best New Deal tradition, health care reform isn't an effort to chip away at capitalism--but rather a bid to save it.
For much of the twentieth century, it looked like we were well on our way toward making health care affordable for all. By the late 1920s, patients weren't the only ones suffering because they couldn't pay medical bills. Hospitals were struggling, too, as their wards filled up with non-paying patients or simply remained empty. And, since the government wasn't rising to the challenge, they decided to address it themselves by creating the first modern insurance plans--which eventually evolved into the Blue Cross system, on which U.S. health insurance remains based today.
The hospital plans focused on recruiting groups of employees, since that made the insurance math work. (Once you had a sufficiently large group of workers, you were basically guaranteed that premiums from the relatively healthy majority would cover the high medical expenses of the small minority with serious health problems.) But they soon started selling some policies on an individual basis, too. They generally made the policies available to anybody who could afford the relatively reasonable premiums, even to people with known health problems, in order to create a larger class of paying customers.
With reinforcement from the government--which, among other things, decided to make employer-sponsored health insurance tax-deductible--the system became entrenched. It was good for employers, who started paying for their workers' health benefits as a way to cement their loyalty and win labor peace; it was good for employees, who had access to affordable coverage; and it was good for doctors and hospitals, who got a steadier, more reliable stream of payments for services. It was also good for opponents of national health insurance, who cited the success of Blue Cross to validate their opinion.
But this was not a system established to protect individuals from financial risk, at least not primarily. It was, instead, a system created to make money for doctors and hospitals--and, subsequently, to give employers a relatively affordable way of placating workers. As a result, the guarantee of protection it offered Americans--not all of them, but most of them--turned out to be fleeting.
By the 1970s, the cost of medicine was going through the roof, right at the time that foreign competition began to crush U.S. manufacturers. Soon the calculus for all employers began to change. Whereas before it had been in their obvious financial interest to be generous about employee health insurance, it was now in their obvious financial interest to be stingy. The steady rise in employer-sponsored insurance halted and began, inevitably, to reverse itself. Insurance products had changed, too, as the old non-profits run by hospitals gave way to commercial insurers primarily interested in making money. Instead of charging everybody the same "community rate," they screened for people in good health, charging higher rates for--or simply excluding--those with histories of anything from hay fever to cancer.
At one key historical juncture, back when these problems were first emerging, the federal government intervened to address them. It happened right after President Lyndon Johnson won reelection in 1964, bringing with him huge Democratic majorities. Together, they created Medicare and Medicaid, offering coverage to the elderly and the poor, two groups that were disconnected from the workplace and thus still struggled to get insurance. The effort succeeded: Medicaid led to large gains in health among the poor, while Medicare vastly reduced poverty among the elderly. But, while the architects of these programs hoped they'd be a stepping stone to national health insurance, the rise of conservative politics, with its signature hatred of the state, squelched that hope.
In the absence of further government intervention, the insurance system deteriorated. The result is the situation we have today. At any one time, according to the most recent census figures, about 46 million people, or roughly 15 percent of Americans, have no health insurance. Conservatives note that this is just a snapshot in time, that very few people actually lack insurance for the entire year. But the fact that people are constantly moving in and out of coverage is not a sign of our health care system's strength; it's a sign of its weakness. Another way to look at the numbers is that, over the course of a two-year period, more than one-fourth of the population will go without health insurance for some time.
And it's not as if having insurance guarantees financial protection. Many people have coverage with gaps that expose them to onerous medical bills. According to a recent study conducted by researchers from the Commonwealth Fund and published in the peer-reviewed journal Health Affairs, in 2007 some 25 million Americans with health insurance were "underinsured," meaning they had high out-of-pocket expenses. Nearly half reported trouble paying bills, and more than half said they went without appropriate medical care--whether it was choosing not to fill prescriptions, skipping doctor visits when sick, or failing to get recommended tests and treatment.
Nor are all, or even most, of the people without adequate health insurance among society's most destitute. The majority in the Commonwealth Fund study were in working families. And a substantial minority were middle class, with household incomes of more than $40,000 per year. "Insurance erosion has spread up the income distribution well into the middle-income range," the authors concluded--reprising the very warning that researchers had made back in the 1930s.
Alas, that's not all that's wrong with U.S. health care today. The main reason health insurance coverage is presently declining is that it's gotten so expensive, with the nation's overall bill consistently rising faster than inflation. This is the product of many factors, chief among them the development of ever-more-powerful technology and the huge demand for it. If the expense of medical care simply rose at a more reasonable rate, we'd still have a problem of people without adequate insurance. But the problem wouldn't be getting worse--or adding to the financial burden that falls on employers and government.
To be fair, there's no iron law of economics that says we cannot choose to spend 16 percent of our gross domestic product on health care--or more. But it has become apparent that we're not getting much for all of this extra money. While U.S. medicine excels in certain areas, like breast cancer treatment, it lags in others, like ongoing diabetes care. On the whole, the data suggest that the United States does not have health care outcomes superior to countries like France, Germany, or Switzerland--all of which have universal coverage yet spend substantially less money.
Some defenders of the status quo argue that the high cost of U.S. health care is the price for our unparalleled record of medical innovation. But it's direct government spending on research, through the National Institutes of Health, that generates the scientific breakthroughs necessary for miracle cures. And, while the drug and device industries perform the necessary work of turning these breakthroughs into treatments, they also churn out products that turn out not to be innovative at all. As writers like Shannon Brownlee and Merrill Goozner have documented persuasively, we pay for a great deal of "over-treatment"--much of it in the form of high-tech cures that don't really help and sometimes hurt patients.
Our health care crisis, then, is really several, intertwined crises. If people didn't get so much inappropriate or wasteful care, they might not run up such big individual bills. If they didn't run up such big bills, insurance premiums wouldn't cost so much. If insurance didn't cost so much, more people could pay for it. It makes sense to think about these problems together and, if possible, to work on solving them simultaneously.
To many activists and experts on the left, one solution in particular seems uniquely capable of having such a broad impact: single-payer health insurance. The term "single-payer" reflects the fact that, in the purist form of such a system, the government is responsible for everybody's medical bills. In practice, though, single-payer systems usually reserve at least some role for private insurance.
Advocates of single-payer systems complain frequently that the mainstream political debate doesn't give their idea the attention it deserves. They are right. Public insurance programs enjoy huge economies of scale; they don't fritter away money on profits or efforts to skim healthier patients from the population. When it comes to billing, they tend to be a lot simpler than, say, a system with dozens of competing insurance plans. All insurance systems require providers to file a lot of paperwork; single-payer systems, though, require just one set. The centralized power of single-payer systems also gives them unparalleled sway over not just the amount of money they pay but how they dole it out; with that kind of leverage, they can push the medical system toward making key improvements in quality.
Conservative critics of single-payer raise the perfectly respectable question of whether a government program could really wield such power judiciously. But it's telling that, when Taiwan set out to create a universal coverage system for its newly prosperous society a few years ago, it carefully studied schemes from around the world--and settled on a single-payer system, because it seemed to deliver the best, most equitable medical care at the lowest price. Today, experts say Taiwan has one of the world's most efficient, convenient, and effective health care systems.
In an ideal world, then, single-payer would almost certainly be the best option. But is it politically feasible? Single-payer advocates like to point out that Representative John Conyers has a singlepayer bill in Congress with close to 100 co-sponsors. But many of those co-sponsors have signed on because, until now, it has been a cheap, meaningless way to win points with liberal interest groups. In the Senate, meanwhile, declared support for single-payer is virtually non-existent. Polling on the question is ambiguous, suggesting the public doesn't yet have a strong opinion about the single-payer option. But even now, as the country seems to be moving left, voters remain deeply skeptical of massive government programs.
That is why the present consensus among Washington reformers, starting with President Obama, leans toward a different set of reforms. Under these plans, most people with insurance would continue to get coverage the way they do now--through Medicaid, if they are poor, or through employer-sponsored insurance, if they have it. But, for those people who don't have insurance and for anybody not satisfied with their present arrangements, these reforms would create a third option: a purchasing cooperative, designed to mimic the system federal employees use, in which people could choose among a set of regulated insurance plans. The private insurers participating in this cooperative couldn't discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions by charging higher rates or excluding them altogether. Every plan would have to provide the same core benefits package, although insurers would be free to offer extra benefits as well. To make sure everybody could afford a policy, the government would offer subsidies, scaled to income. To finance these subsidies as well as the necessary expansions of Medicaid, the government would tap money available elsewhere in the budget, some of it from expiring Bush tax cuts, then raise additional revenue--by, among other things, requiring medium and large employers that don't offer coverage on their own to pay a tax.
The underlying premise of these proposals is caution, at least to the extent that even a tentative overhaul of health care costing well more than $100 billion per year can qualify as "cautious." In theory, most medium and large employers offering coverage would continue to do so, at least for the short term; that means people who had insurance they liked would, for the most part, get to keep it. Backers of these schemes have said they would create a quasi-independent, permanent commission--modeled on the Federal Reserve Board--to make key decisions, like what benefits all plans must cover. But they haven't been too specific about this board's powers, suggesting that it would be a pretty weak institution at first--lest the prospect of government making health care decisions scare off would-be supporters.
If this scheme works out as planned, private insurers would, in effect, operate as a public utility under the close watch of government regulators. But the insurance industry might not be that easy to regulate. That's why Obama and his allies have embraced an innovation first promoted by Jacob Hacker, a political scientist and health policy expert: the creation of a new public insurance program, which would provide good benefits and be available to anybody through the purchasing cooperative. Ideally, such a plan would be able to exert additional leverage over pricing and quality. And if the plan proved more efficient than its private competitors, over time it would attract so many people that it would evolve into a single-payer system by default. Still, the government wouldn't force anyone into it. And, because it wouldn't cover everybody, at least right away, it couldn't meddle with the same strength as a true single-payer system.
The common thread to these ideas is a clear desire to avoid politically troublesome disruptions. But the political virtue of these schemes is also their key policy weakness. Creating a truly efficient health insurance system--one that minimized waste and forced the medical system to act in ways that improved quality--necessarily involves precisely the disruptions today's reformers want to avoid. It's hardly surprising, for example, that a recent Congressional Budget Office report predicted that reforms like the ones under discussion would produce only modest savings in the next few years.
That is why schemes like Obama's frequently earn derision, not just from single-payer advocates but also from critics on the right who think it's wrong to expand coverage without first fixing the health care system's other problems. Typical was a September Newsweek column by Robert Samuelson, in which he suggested that calls for universal coverage were "utterly wrong" and urged policymakers to focus instead on the "unglamorous and probably unpopular" work of forcing down the consumption of expensive medical services.
The desire to prioritize cost and quality over coverage is understandable. It's also misguided. Critics like Samuelson fail to appreciate the difficulty of fixing anything in a fractured insurance system like the one we have today. To take one obvious example, a key to promoting efficiency is continuous care--that is, making sure people see the same doctors over time--since that tends to cut down on wasteful duplication of services and misdiagnoses. But a trademark of the U.S. health insurance system is its volatility. If people aren't moving in and out of coverage altogether, they're moving in and out of different insurance plans, which often means switching doctors, too.
More important, those critics who think coverage should come second fail to grasp--much like some single-payer advocates do--that the probable alternative to a plan like Obama's is doing nothing, since it's even harder to enact cost-control reforms, many of which offend particular special interest groups, without the support of a public that thinks it will gain something in the form of guaranteed coverage. No, the plans now on the table in Washington may not slash costs and improve quality right away. But they will make progress. And that may be as good as it gets.
Then again, many critics on the right would be perfectly happy with the status quo. Yes, tens of millions of Americans can't pay for medical care because they lack adequate insurance; yes, many of these people will suffer. That's the price of having a functioning market economy, they'll say, one that inevitably imposes some pain as it creates prosperity for everybody.
But the choice between a humane society and a productive society is a false one. And the proof is in history. Conservatives made the same complaint about the New Deal, insisting that Social Security and other government interventions would destroy American innovation and lead to socialism. But the New Dealers weren't undermining capitalism. They were saving it from shortcomings that, left to fester, might well have destroyed it from within.
Today, capitalism's most serious shortcoming is a lack of affordable health care; once again, government intervention is the only realistic remedy. The New Dealers anticipated this problem, but they left it to future generations. Seventy years later, the time has finally come to solve it.
Jonathan Cohn is a senior editor of The New Republic.
Copyright © 2007 The New Republic. All rights reserved.
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Thursday, January 22, 2009
Health Care conference report
There will be some sort of health care reforms coming forth from the Congress. This morning, 54 health care bills before the congress in both houses. Some would help and some would do nothing for the group and their families. 82 bills to reform social security. More are coming.
This is taken from reporting on another site http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/labor140109.html
Labor Unions Vow Stepped-up Pressure on Congress to Support "Medicare for All" Approach to Healthcare Reform
Over 150 labor leaders from across U.S. kick off coordinated grassroots campaign for single payer healthcare
St. Louis – More than 150 union leaders from 31 states gathered in St. Louis last weekend to step up a grassroots campaign to enact comprehensive national healthcare reform. The group is promoting a single-payer plan, which would work like an improved and expanded Medicare program to cover everyone.
The national kick-off meeting was convened by Labor for Single-Payer Healthcare, a campaign spearheaded by scores of trade union organizations. The national single-payer bill, HR 676 -- expected to be reintroduced in Congress later this month -- has been endorsed by 39 state AFL-CIO federations, 100 Central Labor Councils, and more than 400 local unions. The bill has 92 co-sponsors in Congress, more than any other health care reform bill.
In 2007, the national AFL-CIO Executive Council also adopted a resolution in support of the Medicare for All approach.
Speakers at the conference* included three members of the national AFL-CIO Executive Council, three AFL-CIO state federation presidents, three Central Labor Council presidents along with many other major union leaders.
Over the course of two days, delegates vigorously discussed strategies to promote single payer reform while also developing the new campaign's mission statement, governance structure and a grassroots action plan.
"Poll after poll shows that the public supports a Medicare for All approach, yet a lot of policy makers think it is politically unrealistic," said United Electrical Workers Regional President Carl Rosen, a leader of the recent occupation by workers at Republic Windows and Door in Chicago. "However our economic future depends on making the right policy choices on health care -- and that's single payer."
"Our members have been active promoting real health care reform in nearly every municipality in California. I am excited about the Labor Campaign's potential to expand this work across the rest of America," said Clyde Rivers, a member of the AFL-CIO Executive Council and past president of the California School Employees Association.
"President-elect Obama has invited Americans to join a national dialogue on how to solve our national healthcare crisis. Labor and grassroots activists around the country are responding with a clear and emphatic message -- a single-payer plan such as HR 676 is the only way to protect American families from skyrocketing medical costs and the disgraceful denials of care so common in the current system," said Rose Ann DeMoro, executive director of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee.
Rose Ann DeMoro Speaks at the Labor for Single Payer Healthcare Meeting
"In virtually every contract negotiation, employers are seeking to shift the cost of healthcare to workers, resulting in contentious bargaining and many strikes. For the vast majority of workers without a union, the situation is even more desperate. A publicly financed, national healthcare plan similar to our Medicare system that could efficiently cover all Americans is the only solution that will control costs, increase access and improve the quality of care," said Jeff Crosby, president of the North Shore Labor Council, AFL-CIO.
"Our campaign will promote grassroots labor support for a Medicare for All solution to the healthcare crisis. We will educate and mobilize broad membership support for healthcare reforms that would take basic healthcare benefits 'off the table' and allow our unions to focus on pay, working conditions, and other important benefits in collective bargaining," said Nancy Wohlforth, a vice president of the California Federation of Labor and a leader of the Office and Professional Employees International Union (OPEIU).
Speakers at the conference included:
Missouri AFL-CIO President Hugh McVay
St. Louis Central Labor Council President Bob Soutier
Coalition of Black Trade Unionists Vice President Lew Moye
Washington DC Central Labor Council President Jos Williams
California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee Executive Director Rose Ann DeMoro
California School Employees Association Past President Clyde Rivers
Wisconsin State AFL-CIO President Dave Newby
North Shore Labor Council (Massachusetts) President Jeff Crosby
South Carolina AFL-CIO President Donna Dewitt
United Electrical Workers Regional President Carl Rosen
Office Professional Employees International Union Secretary-Treasurer, Nancy Wohlforth
National Union of Hospital and Health Care Employees 1199C, AFSCME President Henry Nicholas